I'm going to completely revamp the Nub Cave soon.

[Cecil Harvey]

None of the one's your keeping interest me honestly. Otherwise I'd have.... You know... Joined them in the first place <.<


And I kinda have my doubts about the one your making.

[Count Dracula]

The game and music boards are a bit cluttered. There's various topics, and then there's the Battle topics scattered throughout the board as well. Making a separate board for the battles helps organize everything better. :3

That's why the topics get stickied. Making an entirely new board for them is a waste of space, there's really no need for it. I've never heard anyone complain about not being able to find a battle topic in any of the boards.

One of the main reason I'm revamping the site is to trash all the stuff that isn't that active/is completely inactive so that we can focus on the active stuff. Don't fear change! You've gotta put the past behind you to move ahead!

It seems more like burning away the past more than anything. And I'm sure having old RPs still archived isn't going to keep anyone from RPing in the new one if they were planning on doing so already.

For instance, I don't think I'm going to join this new RP. It almost feels like its getting forced upon us, and even though everyone would like a little change, it doesn't seem like this is anything but a dream project of somesort that, like I said, is being forced on the general populace of the board. I honestly can't see myself getting behind this one, I think I'm just going to stick around and RP in whatever RPs end up staying here when this change occurs.

I'm going to be leaving now, I'm staying at a friend's house until tomorrow night. I would really, REALLY appreciate it if we waited to change everything until everyone (including myself) has a chance to voice their opinions more, as I'm sure more things will be said in the time between myself leaving tonight and myself returning.

[Eirika]

Well I honestly wasn't expecting this much opposition.. >_>


Like I've said before, I'm getting tired of the RPs we have now. I originally wanted to delete ALL of them and start over completely, but I'm keeping some of them.

Most of the RPs degenerate into the SAME THING

person meets person
person and person fall in love
person and person lay around having sex all the time and never/rarely get up and DO something aside from eachother


It's like you've said Floyd.. Older RPs had little subplots along with the romance, which made it VASTLY better

Whereas now, it's just plain romance. And it's boring me. And I can't ever come up with plots unless I sit down and focus on making one like I did today.

Play keeps things interesting. So do SC and OWB. They have constant plots that prevent us from falling back into romance ALL THE DAMN TIME.

THAT'S why I want to get rid of the RPs that don't have a plot and just have mindless romance, like BC, HC, and so on. And that's also why I wanted to create a new RP with a long-running, good plot that'd keep us interested in things ASIDE from sex.


Besides... Once my plot for the new RP is over (or while my plot is going), others can start up their own plots and subplots and stuff.

Romance might still occur in the new RP, but there'll be an overlaying story to go with all of it. I'll also make sure that romance occurs much more slowly. (People meet and end up fucking just a few days later in these RPs. Hardly any relationships move that fast in real life. >_> )

Back in the REAL old RPs, like the original Play, romance was practically non-existent. There was hardly any at all. But when people started doing it more often, it caught on and quickly spread like a bad fad, and that caused RPs to devolve into mindless romance-fests with few, if any, plots and cool interactions and stuff.

[Eirika]

I would really, REALLY appreciate it if we waited to change everything until everyone (including myself) has a chance to voice their opinions more, as I'm sure more things will be said in the time between myself leaving tonight and myself returning.

Don't worry, I'll wait for more people to post. Hardly anyone's been on the past couple of days though. >_<

[Eirika]

Y'know, I've noticed something...

In my history of RPing, I've ALWAYS faced opposition when I wanted to completely revamp/restart something.

Why does everyone seem to fear change but me? I should've expected opposition on THIS idea too. -_-

[Stupid Mario Brothers]

We'll i've only read the first post Nub put and all i'm saying is that i'm all for it.

[Cecil Harvey]

It's not the fact that your changing something. Everybody around here agrees that it's getting boring and that something needs to be changed.


It's the way your going about it >_>. Your kinda doing whatever you think is best and not thinking about how the rest of the people around here feel.

[Count Dracula]

It's like you've said Floyd.. Older RPs had little subplots along with the romance, which made it VASTLY better

Then why don't we try for that, rather than for an RP that has a plot no one knows about, no room for adding things in until the eight seperate parts are finished (which may or may not even occur, since I've rarely seen an RP's story go to completeion), and basically having nothing to contribute other than being set pieces in some master plan, which is what it sounds like to me.

Add on to that the fact that you're getting rid of everything, and it makes it seem very much to me that we aren't really going to be contributing to anything, just going with the flow.

When you first posted about changing things, I said I agreed because I thought it was going to be something along the lines of two or three RPs, similar to Mansion or another RP like that, but with a more definite plot, and a smaller character limit in order to promote RPing that isn't as played out as the RPs currently are. Because I won't lie, I still like the RPs here. They may have problems, but I was having fun in them right up to the point I made my topic about thinking of dropping out, which I made not because of the problems with the RP, but because of the problems with myself.

But when I see this new plan, I can't get behind it. Its as if I'm being blindfolded and told "do this", and everything else is being removd so that this new RP is the only active one. And I don't like that at all.

*my ride didn't get here yet*

Y'know, I've noticed something...

In my history of RPing, I've ALWAYS faced opposition when I wanted to completely revamp/restart something.

Why does everyone seem to fear change but me? I should've expected opposition on THIS idea too. -_-

Well at the most basic level, this doesn't sound like an RP I'd be interested in.

Going beyond that, the method of promoting this change has been very rough around the edges. You can see my prvious posts as for why I feel that way.

It's not the fact that your changing something. Everybody around here agrees that it's getting boring and that something needs to be changed.


It's the way your going about it >_>. Your kinda doing whatever you think is best and not thinking about how the rest of the people around here feel.

For the most part, this sums up what I mean, although I haven't gotten really bored with the RPs, just frustrated at the RPers.

[Eirika]

Your kinda doing whatever you think is best and not thinking about how the rest of the people around here feel.

Really? If I didn't care about everyone's opinion, would I have even made this topic in the first place? Nope. I would've just changed it without letting anyone know or voice their opinion.


I'm still waiting for everyone to voice their opinion. once EVERYONE is done saying what's on their mind, then I'll take it all into consideration and make a decision from that. But right now, nothing's happening. So we wait.

[Bored_Man]

I'd have to agree with Floyd and co on this. But while I'm here, I'm going to list grievances against users, that hopefully could be fixed.

Raven: There've been many times I've tried to get some RPing done with you, but when I do try, you're either totally absorbed in RPing with Adol, or you just up and leave to play your games or whatever, or you just simply say "I dun wanna". It's gotten to where I've just stopped wanting to RP with you specifically.

Adol: I'm mainly annoyed because you're the one that gets most of the RPing attention. And also, a lot of Raven's mentioned romances/sexing comes from you and him, and it's nearly always between women. I've been tolerating it, but it's getting stale.

Floyd: I actually can't come up with anything major, except that interactions of ours don't last very long. I can't tell if that's my fault or yours, but I hope it could become fixed to where we could actually do some worthwhile and more lengthy RPing together.

[Cecil Harvey]

But your not actually listening. Instead your reading every post and saying "No, my way is better."

[Eirika]

But your not actually listening. Instead your reading every post and saying "No, my way is better."

Please don't take shots at me, especially when said shots aren't true.

For once I'm actually reading all of yours, Floyd's, and Bored's posts and thinking about how I can fix any complaints you guys might have.

Take Floyd huge post just now for example. I'll post my responses to his points.

Then why don't we try for that, rather than for an RP that has a plot no one knows about, no room for adding things in until the eight seperate parts are finished (which may or may not even occur, since I've rarely seen an RP's story go to completeion), and basically having nothing to contribute other than being set pieces in some master plan, which is what it sounds like to me.

People CAN throw in their own plots and mix it up with my plot. All they'd have to do is PM me with the idea and we'd work out how we can integrate it into my basic plot.

The plot I've created is a sort of frame that can be filled in with other people's plots and ideas and stuff.

If you'd like, I could PM bits and pieces of the story to various people, kinda like what Omega did with Shattered Peace

Add on to that the fact that you're getting rid of everything, and it makes it seem very much to me that we aren't really going to be contributing to anything, just going with the flow.

I'm not getting rid of EVERYTHING.. I'm just clearing out inactive stuff for the sake of getting rid of unnecessary clutter. 

Hardly anyone posts in Mansion and High School and all that, so why bother keeping them around? They're all just deadweight IMO.



See Omega?
I'm actually trying to listen to you all for once.. So don't go saying that I think "my way is better". I like my idea, but I'm trying not to be an arrogant jackass about it. >_<

[Van Halen]

um could you possibly explain the new RP a little better i dont really understand it. like whats with the themes but besides that i dont really oppose this because im only in O:WB

[Eirika]

the new RP takes place in the country of Solin in the capital city of Rima.

It's a modern city, just like anywhere in real life.

At first you'll only really be able to take normal people. No powers or anything. Maybe skills in weapons or something.

As the story progresses though, more and more possibilities will open up. Your normal humans will start to learn new things. Possibilities include demonic powers, among other things.


If you guys want, I can tell you more about the story.

[Cecil Harvey]

I'm not trying to take shots at you. And I'm sorry if I made you upset. But that is honestly how I felt >.>


and I honestly agree with Floyd when I say that this all feels very forced on everybody. Remember when we started over after the GameFAQs topics died? We lost a few people. One or two that later came back. Most among those who left never did.


I think that your putting the Cave on the brink of that happening again. People being turned off by all this, and deciding to quit. And I can't talk for anybody but myself on a personal basis. But talking to some of the people around here, for the last few weeks I really wouldn't be surprised if that happened. In fact I myself may very well be one of them <.<. Because I'm not too excited about losing everything that I've done in topics, and all the ones I take part in are being cut.


Other people might have other reasons to be hestitent about this. But those are mine.